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I used to volunteer. And I’d go out at weekends, we’d set up a stand and we’d promote the book Dianetics, which is the book that Scientology is based on. And Chuck [Alex Barnes-Ross], which is what we called him, used to come along. And he’d help us set up and promote the book, and show it to people.
At the time I thought he was sincere and I thought he was very enthusiastic. Looking back, he was a little bit, I could say, fanatical or euphoric. It looked like it kind of became his whole life. Didn’t seem like he had much to do outside, or was interested in much outside of it.
And he seemed to be quite clingy in that he would really depend on the group. A friend of mine who was staff, a staff member in those days, was a lodger of mine as well, so I saw her every day. And I remember she would sometimes complain about Alex—well, she’d call him Chucky—because he would follow her, and he would cling to her, and he would text her. And she would go, “Oh, that’s Chucky again.”
And she did mention a couple of times, “I asked him to do this, he didn’t do that.” And he seemed like he was asking for trouble or trying to cause problems.
Alex must have done something really bad to actually be asked to leave. You’d have to really mess up big or be completely unreliable. So little errors we commit them all and we rectify them. We get a lot of help, actually, to do our jobs. Alex would have gotten all the help he needed. But you really have to do something, you know, like steal or stalk or be really unpleasant to be asked to leave.
But now it seems like he’s spending his whole life turning the one thing that he admittedly said was helping him, to turn that against him. And the few friends who he had don’t want anything to do with him because, quite honestly, it’s to me—it’s like a betrayal. I’m sure a lot was done to help him. He had a lot of friends in those days, and now he’s gone and thrown it all away. Not only that, but to spend your life hating people or being intolerant of all other people’s religion, it’s quite horrible.
It really does not make any sense to me. So that’s why I think it’s—it must be money motivated.
